13
Jul
08

How to Select Eye Glasses

Info everyone should know.

I’ve had big trouble purchasing glasses that provide me with what I would call normal vision.

I think all eye glass wearers should be familiar with the content in this post hopefully readers will agree.

In the old days there was never a problem, my glasses always worked well.

Today with the introduction of high index glass and plastic and all manner of expensive options and what not, optical performance has degraded. These new features seem to have all come at the expense of optical performance.

Guess what, your friendly ophthalmologist is not going to tell you this, he wants to sell you the more expensive product and can provide a plethora of reasons why the more expensive product is going to be better for you. This may be so, but you won’t be able to see as well.

Here is a nice quote from Wikipedia “Restrict the choice of lens material to the highest ABBE value at acceptable thickness. The oldest most basic commonly used lens materials also happens to have the best optical characteristics at the expense of corrective lens thickness (i.e., cosmetics). Newer materials have focused on improved cosmetics and increased impact safety, at the expense of optical quality.”

If you want thinness and lightness just get a smaller lens, forget the higher index crap.

These old and cheap materials are “Crown Glass” and “CR39″ plastic both with an Abbe number near 58. The difference between the two is that the Glass is harder and heavier and the plastic is lighter and softer. Both will produce thicker glasses than a higher index material but you will be able to see better, your choice.

I suspect that the industry has settled on 20/20 as being the desirable norm so that they can pawn of cheaper products and services. There is no reason that I know of that most people can’t get better vision without paying anymore money.

Personally I want to see better than 20/20 and I am starting from a pretty poor position, needing lots of correction on top of astigmatism. I want to be able to see at the 20/15 level which is one notch better than normal people that have 20/20. My astigmatism compounds my problems, but it is still easy to get that 20/15. Often when you go to get your eyes tested they will give you a correction for 20/20 vision. Don’t settle for that crap tell them you want 20/15. Your eyes may not have the resolution but many people I know seem to have no trouble with 20/15.

For me the difference between 20/20 and 20/15 is that at when corrected to 20/20 there is a slight blurryness to the smallest lines on the eye chart. At 20/15 there is no discernible blurriness to any line on the chart, they are all sharp even the smallest that you have no chance of reading. The reason why you can’t read the 20/10 line is that your eye does not haave enough resolution, it should still be sharp. Once your focus has been corrected by your glasses then the limiting factor is the resolution of your eyes. People with more resolution can resolve the smaller lines on the eye chart.

Now that you have a prescription for 20/15 vision you next need to purchase glasses that won’t degrade that special 20/15 vision. It is nice to be able to see better than most every body else.

To date most modern options offered at the glasses store all reduce the optical quality of the glasses you are going to buy.

An easy way to test an optician to find out if they know their business is to ask for the Abbe number of the glasses that they are trying to sell you. If he can’t answer the question go somewhere else to shop, the guy you just spoke to is a sales man and not qualified to be selling eye glasses.

The cheapest lenses have the best optical performance with an Abbe number of 58 or above. None of them are high index. All high index lenses have low Abbe numbers.

It might be nice to know where this Abbe number came from, what is it, what it is good for and why it was so named.

I can’t find a link on the net that easily tells you what the Abbe number is good for so let me paraphrase from many different sources. First we assume that your lens is properly formed. If this is the case then variations in it’s optical properties are due to the materials the lens is made from. To date no one has invented a perfect material. All materials bend different wave lengths of light (colors) by different amounts. The result is that the various colors that make up your image do not focus at the same spot and you see a blurry image (not sharp). The Abbe number tells you how good or bad the material is at getting all the colors to focus at the same spot. The higher the number the better.

Improvements to the lens can be made in various ways but as far as I know these techniques are not used in the eye glass industry. See Apochromatic lenses and Achromatic lenses

For typical eye glasses an Abbe number of 58 or higher will probably mean no noticeable problems or fuzzy stuff and you will get your 20/15 vision.

This fuzzy stuff only occurs when you are not looking right through the middle of the lens. The fuzzyness gets worse the more you look through the outside edges of the lens.

The fuzziness also gets worse the stronger your prescription and the larger the lens.

If you have a weak prescription and a small lens you may be able to get away with a lower Abbe number. Your lens will be thinner and more expensive.

To sum it all up buy the cheapest plastic lens material. This should be CR39 with various suppliers giving it their own name. If your glasses shop does not know CR39 then go some place else. The only coating you need on the CR39 is the scratch resistant coating that usually is there automatically. These lenses are cheap $30 dollars and lower for a pair. If something screws and you get a scratch, just buy another. These lens are molded in large factories where labor is cheap all your shop guy is going to do is cut the lens to fit your frame, and hopefully get the center of the lens aligned with the center of your vision.

If you drive a car then you need to be able to drive into the sun safely. To do this you need polarized sunglasses. The Polarizers not only reduce the brightness but if properly setup also eliminate glare. Polarizers can also be tinted various other colors than their native grey and setup to reduce brightness even more. As polarizers are rotated they eliminate different types of glare, thus your road glasses need to have the correct rotation to eliminate the road glare, this should be the default setup for any polarized lens, but I have some that are all over the place. So I know we can’t count on our friendly industry to do things correctly. When properly rotated the polarizers eliminate glare from water surfaces allowing fishermen to see beneath the surface, a very handy attribute.

Here is a simple chart and another showing various glass materials and Abbe number.

Here is a much more complex chart with Abbe numbers.

My current eye glasses; bifocals with integrated magnetic clip on polarizers, dedicated reading/computer glasses, normal for far use only also with integrated magnetic clip on polarizers, polarized and tinted glasses for driving and fishing. I also have a pair of bifocal safety glasses (not shown) as well as another pair of reading glasses set for use at a closer distance than normal.

In Canada you can only buy prescription lens with a prescription, so get your prescription written to include all variants that you might want such as the bifocals and closer focusing glasses.

My current eye glasses

My current eye glasses

There are two important features to get in your frames:

First, spring loaded arms so the arms will always maintain their grip on the side of your face as the hinges wear. It also makes it much easier to remove your glasses from your head. Some frames will use the arm itself as the spring. Typically the cheaper frames do not incorporate the spring feature. These cheaper frames, in my experience only work well for a couple of months, before the hinge wears and the glasses start flopping all over your face.

Second, replaceable nose pads, preferably made from silicon.

Another important note is that your glasses can be adjusted at the shop for free any time, and they should be comfortable and stay put on your face all the time even during exercise. Do not settle for anything less.

I’ve tried contact lenses many times and have never been able to get 20/15. Don’t know if it is possible or just sloppy industry practices.

Last big reminder, do not settle for anything less than 20/15 vision (better vision than most people, there has to be at least one advantage to wearing glasses).

In my own case I know I have 20/15 if everything is always sharp. Any fuzziness is not acceptable. It may take some time for you to adapt to the super sharp look as you will find your brain has to process much more information. This can take up to two weeks during which you may experience different mental capacity as your brain adapts to the new load.

Do not settle for 20/20, this is just our sloppy industry passing off a crappy product on the unwary consumer.

I just noticed that someone from Allen Town Optical Corp just dropped in. I checked out their site, and they have a nice summary of the different types of lens material. These guys might just be one of those rare vendors that tries to do a good job.


5 Responses to “How to Select Eye Glasses”


  1. 1 Bobj321
    2008, August 29 at 5:58 pm

    It sounds like your trying to help folks. Most of what you say is correct. The 20/15 part is even correct if the patient is capable of seeing 20/15. Some can even see 20/10.
    20/20 is just an average its a bell curve having some at 20/40 at many at 20/15.
    Its going to make some people very frustrated when they ask for something that is not possible 20/15 glasses when the limiting factor is the eye.

    An add on coating that does help is anti reflection. You probably noticed all your camera lenses have this coating. It does work.

    CR39 and Crown do offer the best optics. The cheapest plastic is becoming polycarb. with an abbe value of 30 it has terrible optics yet is probably the most popular plastic. Why?
    You got it, cosmetics, unbreakable, UV etc.

    RGP contacts almost always have better optics than glasses. They are the hard variety. Older thicker contacts have good optics too. You may have dry eye, or too much astigmatism for 20/15 with soft cls.

    You (me too) are a bit of a perfectionist so good optics, good vision are important to you. Most of the population is not as criticle, they don’t notice or are not aware of things that you perceive. Cosmetic effect usually (not always) trumps optics esp with women.

    In Rxs past -4.00 and with progressive bifocals low abbe 30ish becomes noticeable.

    One note, the lab person cutting your lenses is more important than you know. The most common problem with all prescriptions is having the PD off vertically or horz. or both. This induces unwanted prism which can lead to eyestrain in various degrees or double vision. It is very important that they measure your PD accurately and then double check that it was actually made correctly. Most labs and offices do not routinely check this (Takes too much time and money) and simply let the patient (You) figure it out, which they usually don’t.
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    BobW (It’s nice to meet some one with some knowledge on the subject and I wouldn’t disagree with much of what you said, but would like to add another consideration to the anti reflection coating subject. This coating makes it much harder to clean the glasses and clean glasses trump any improvement of vision that the coating may make. On the other hand if appearances are important, I do notice that the anti reflective coating does allow other people to see your eyes much better, even takes better photos for the same reason.)

  2. 2008, November 13 at 3:30 pm

    This page also has a lot of great information about reading glasses, http://www.onlyreadingglasses.com/helpfulinfo.cfm.

  3. 2008, November 13 at 4:03 pm

    Sure appreciate the added info. The world of eye glass wearers desperately need more awareness of the issues surrounding their glasses purchases.

  4. 4 Guy Kuo
    2009, May 11 at 5:59 pm

    I’ve had excellent results cleaning AR coated lenses. It is possible to keep the coating intact for three years, but you must be extremely diligent about HOW you clean the lenses.

    1. NEVER NEVER NEVER spray and wipe the lenses. That will allow grit to scratch the coatings.

    2. Always wash the lenses under warm running water. I use a few drops of regular dawn and a cotton ball to do the cleaning. Only the weight of the cotton ball and water is used. Don’t scrub. Don’t push. Don’t every do it without the lens wet so grit can be gently floated off without scratching.

    3. AR lenses once cleaned this way of grit and oils can be dried by lust holding them vertically in a gentle water stream and letting the water surface tension take all the water off. If you do this correctly on a AR coated lens, you never have to wipe the lens dry. Hence, minize scratches.

    This process kept my AR coatings pristine and clean for three years. Most people make a mess of their coatings in months using spray and wipe.
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    BobW (I once used windex on my glasses, eventually it took the coatings off.)

  5. 2009, June 23 at 3:27 am

    As an optician I care a lot about the quality of vision of myself and my patients. I agree with the statements about abbe value especially for patients with stronger astigmatism or perscriptions. However, most patients with a weaker Rx cannot tell the difference between cr-39 and poly and in that case I always recommend the poly for its thinner material, strength and safety and UV features. And we have many patients able to see 20/20 or 20/15 out of poly.

    It’s also a tough call for those with a much higher Rx because a thinner lighter lens is a dream for someone over +/-8.00 who needs bi-focals or multi-focal lenses, and a small lens is not always practical for their Rx or lifestyle.

    I only point this out to show that it can be a complicated decision and one that the patient needs to be aware of. A good practice should inform them of these options, good and bad.

    As technology has advanced the process and make-up of Anti-Reflective lenses has also improved greatly over the last 10-15 years. Crizal Avonce with Scotchguard is one type of AR that has the scratch resistance of glass and good cleanability too.

    Thanks for your research and desire to empower the masses! I am happy to see that some patients are pro-active about their vision needs, and want to remind you that not all in the business are sloppy or greedy.

    peace.
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    BobW (Thanks for the thoughtful well written opinion)


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